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happy saturday

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hope you're enjoying it

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i am so far i got my tv6

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so i'm pretending to be a newscaster

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sorry if you're hearing some microphone

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but yeah i hope you're enjoying your

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saturday i got a lot of stuff on the

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docket

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a couple things right off the bat

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if you haven't like the video

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if you could it's gonna be great trust

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so you can just like it now

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tonight i'm gonna be on space.radio

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uh that'll be pretty cool it's not often

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that very much

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and wanted to say what's up to everybody

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eve clancy what's going on megan t with

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uh to try and make sense of it

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that sounds pretty interesting

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let me know

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mr robert gofford what's happening

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um who else we got who else we got who

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else we got we got witness citizen

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what's up

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is going to eat some pizza i guess and

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then come back and we got joe's with the

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thank yous these shows are never

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we got laura sosa what's happening

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glad you are here paranormal pixie lara

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weinstein and michael's uh which is um

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as far as you know having his character

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the case it's just something that they

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forth um and having some physics or

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knowing some physics that they don't

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the case and put off kind of replied

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that is the case and then they kind of

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scientists and held by aerospace

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scientists was back in europe

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and got a material that he thought might

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have been a meteorite whatever it turns

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out it wasn't but it was some sort of

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glass material

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and handed it over to blue book and

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discussed how it could be

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not in great detail but basically

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you know

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there's also a report i found

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on a government website

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this material this uh this way they

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found to make like aluminum or something

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more flexible um how it was going to

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change the basically the face of

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everything and how they needed to

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introduce it to private companies

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and that kind of makes it concerned with

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like

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you know i guess you can't be naive

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about it but if you know the government

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is

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in charge of not in charge but does find

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it first and and divvys it out like do

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i don't know

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and you know mr pudov is something that

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is interesting some of his magnesium

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bismuth um

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material that he

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was researching and looking into

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um

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you know is from roswell apparently

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which

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i didn't know that

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um

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but now we do but apparently it is

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and it's interesting you know i've heard

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him speak about this before and it's all

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about the way it was made

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um which was made at a subatomic

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lake level apparently

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you know which we've only been able to

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create things that you know according to

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what louis lozando said once in an

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interview

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um about 10 years ago and this was found

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well be before that so

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it makes you think

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um who the hell who the hell made it

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and then you get back to

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another person working on materials

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which is

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um

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dr gary nolan who

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talks about like the bismuth

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and magnesium piece that he has i truly

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wonder if it's the same

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um

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although i don't know that but when he

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talks about it he he says it's not so

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much

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you know the

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it's it's more like the isotopic ratios

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you gotta bear with me here because this

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is not my field but i'm trying

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um and isotopic ratios in

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you know the piece that he has he's got

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two pieces from the same thing

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apparently from a sighting in iowa

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and one is completely normal

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and the other one is mixed

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like

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not

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normal

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and it's not so much what it's made of

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but

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how you would have what you would have

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to do to make it that way

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and the fact that you can make it that

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way but it would cost in the millions of

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dollars

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and who would do that

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and for what

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you know

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i don't know we touched on that a little

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bit more a couple uh episodes ago

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and yeah i put the link for this in

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there it's very interesting uh podcast

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he also did one with uh engaging the

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phenomenon uh which i thought was pretty

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good too

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which you know was some interesting that

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came up in that one is

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um

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you know setting up a scientific

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investigation basically with you know

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ce5 folks

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you know

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aspect that people can fall onto as like

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you know if these things are intelligent

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and they don't want to be seen well

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maybe you know they didn't show up

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because they knew we were doing this

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experiment

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sometimes i think well is that a cop-out

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or is that true you know

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because you could always say that like i

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could say i could spring a spin a

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basketball on my finger for three hours

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straight i just can't do it if anyone

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watches or if i record it

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you can't prove me wrong

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you know it's just one of those things i

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yeah matches the gary nolan sample with

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the bismuth magnesium very interesting

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very interesting

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you know we'll see what happens with it

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there's only so much you can prove right

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you can't prove that a spaceship came

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and and dropped it or

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you know it's a part of their propulsion

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all you can really prove

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is how

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i guess anomalous or weird it is

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and now the isotopes are way out of

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normal so to speak

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so you can prove that

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but then that question ultimately comes

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down to the why why is it like that

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and if it has to be human created or has

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to be part of a manufacturing process

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like and you don't know anything that

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consists of that material or would need

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to

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like where do you go from there

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where do you go from there

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robert you mentioned that too and i saw

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that on the um

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um

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the kirchhoff mungle

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i think podcast he mentioned something

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about that to linda molten howell who is

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talking about um the bismuth

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uh magnesium piece that she had so

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everybody's got this bismuth magnesium

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stuff and i don't know if everything is

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the same or people got different pieces

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or whatever you

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know i don't know but that question was

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uh definitely over her head for better

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for worse

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so

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we'll see like in order to

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you know know this one way or another if

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it's like the same as these metal plugs

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or whatever i got to see the stat sheets

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what the stuff is made of and i have to

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see the paperwork from the materials

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they have

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and line it up for myself otherwise it's

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capabilities of material what it could

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be used for they have a hard time

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figuring that out because they don't

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know what it would be used for so it's

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you know if if it is

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you know has some sort of capability

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that material and we just don't know

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what it is maybe it's just time that

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yeah gary nolan also has an it has been

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interviewed by jesse m uh michael who

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did this interview here with buddha here

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so i do want to watch that too

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a lot of stuff to watch a lot of stuff

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to watch

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uh another piece

469
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you know well they talked about remote

470
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viewing psychotronic weapons and all

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that and

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you know that's a huge can of worms i

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really appreciate michael's question or

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you know

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his um observation where he said a lot

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of this uap stuff ufo stuff in this

477
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remote viewing stuff for psychotronic

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weapon stuff seems like there's a lot of

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overlap there and a lot of you know the

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same people or whatever have their hand

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in both things like what are the

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um

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connections there and i agree with them

484
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that's something i noticed too even when

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you do research

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you know um

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on the cia's website or whatever like

488
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you'll often find yourself

489
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looking for like a ufo thing or uap

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thing and are directed into a

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psychotronic weapon thing or a remote

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viewing thing um so it's very

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interesting that there definitely i

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think is a connection there although i'm

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not exactly sure

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uh what that is other than the people

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that kind of share both topics

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and

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you know um you could say the

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consciousness aspect

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because a lot of people isn't the

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overall you know overwhelming theme of

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the ufo stuff is it's

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consciousness-based so if that's the

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case well yeah remote viewing

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would definitely be connected to that

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stuff because

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you know

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if you're sending your consciousness

510
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you know basically a thousand miles away

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to go look at something and bring back

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the information

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um

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you know i don't know you can really

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explain that i guess

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which is interesting because buddha said

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it wasn't remote viewing itself was it

519
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you said basically they ruled that off

520
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and how one of the reasons or one of the

521
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examples he used was it had remote

522
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in a submarine

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conduct experiments

524
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and he didn't really say much more other

525
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than the remote viewers

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were

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appreciative of how quiet it was down

528
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and he used that example to kind of say

529
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i believe

530
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the electromagnetic

531
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aspects of remote viewing or there is

532
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none

533
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basically or

534
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do that off the table which i thought

535
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um

536
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i know i wasn't really one to know

537
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enough to comment on that to begin with

538
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but

539
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the the most interesting part of that

540
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was the submarine you're sending remote

541
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that's not cheap

542
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that can't be cheap you know they had to

543
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put

544
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you got to take that stuff seriously

545
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like they're not putting remote viewers

546
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in a submarine if they don't think this

547
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stuff works you know

548
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um

549
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and we had robert knight that interview

550
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we had with him um a little bit ago he

551
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was great friends with uh

552
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mr swan great remote viewer and and told

553
00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:38,159
pretty interesting story about him

554
00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:41,679
and he's told me others too that are

555
00:22:45,110 --> 00:22:43,360
that are pretty intense

556
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so

557
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um

558
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if you want a way to manipulate i think

559
00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:53,440
it is the stock market via remote

560
00:22:57,990 --> 00:22:55,679
viewing helped put up put forth away

561
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and uh you know challenged eric to try

562
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it

563
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70 30 apparently

564
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he said

565
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i don't know i may watch that again and

566
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try it i'm not sure but

567
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you know that could be

568
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disastrous if everything everyone was

569
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doing that just

570
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making a bunch of free money but you

571
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know whatever

572
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stock market probably deserves it

573
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um

574
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weinstein was talking about uh the

575
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preliminary uap assessment um in

576
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relation to

577
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project blue book a little bit well the

578
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first thing he said about the assessment

579
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and i kind of agree with that is you can

580
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sense that there's some conflict in

581
00:23:41,269 --> 00:23:38,799
there

582
00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:41,279
you know like um maybe the secret

583
00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:43,279
keepers and the people are trying to

584
00:23:47,029 --> 00:23:45,440
break that pattern are kind of fighting

585
00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:47,039
a little bit through that preliminary

586
00:23:50,870 --> 00:23:48,720
assessment maybe the secret keepers are

587
00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:50,880
kind of losing ground a little bit and i

588
00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:53,520
agree with them there

589
00:23:58,230 --> 00:23:56,159
you can tell when reading it

590
00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:58,240
definitely and like i said i want to go

591
00:24:01,909 --> 00:24:00,240
back and do another video

592
00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:01,919
you know going through that assessment

593
00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:03,600
again now that some time has passed and

594
00:24:09,110 --> 00:24:07,039
we learned that all of those um

595
00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:09,120
you know events were

596
00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:11,760
reported to from the navy not even the

597
00:24:15,430 --> 00:24:13,600
air force

598
00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:15,440
and when they talk about them they say

599
00:24:20,310 --> 00:24:18,240
reported to by the military why wouldn't

600
00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:20,320
you just say the navy well right there

601
00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:22,000
you're fudging details

602
00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:24,799
so that's pretty interesting

603
00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:27,440
um but what he said is either project

604
00:24:31,029 --> 00:24:29,520
blue book you know he goes project blue

605
00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:31,039
book basically told us there's nothing

606
00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:32,960
to see here and now this prelim

607
00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:34,559
assessment came out and said well maybe

608
00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:36,880
there is something to see here

609
00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:39,200
and he's thinking like either project

610
00:24:43,110 --> 00:24:41,120
blue book was telling the truth

611
00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:43,120
or the prelim assessment is telling the

612
00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:44,080
truth

613
00:24:50,070 --> 00:24:45,520
um the thing that

614
00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:51,029
about

615
00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:52,799
you know getting you know smart people

616
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:55,520
like these scientists like eric involved

617
00:25:00,490 --> 00:24:58,000
um talking about this stuff and and they

618
00:25:02,549 --> 00:25:00,500
go back and think about blue book

619
00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:02,559
[Music]

620
00:25:06,789 --> 00:25:04,880
they need to be educated

621
00:25:09,110 --> 00:25:06,799
on blue book

622
00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:09,120
blue book isn't the final assessment

623
00:25:12,830 --> 00:25:12,000
that came out or the condon report

624
00:25:14,549 --> 00:25:12,840
you

625
00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:14,559
know

626
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:16,320
that's

627
00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:20,320
reading it

628
00:25:25,830 --> 00:25:22,400
the back of the book written

629
00:25:28,230 --> 00:25:25,840
intentionally false you know

630
00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:28,240
on the show we've gone over so many

631
00:25:32,549 --> 00:25:29,760
cases

632
00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:32,559
thousands of military sightings you know

633
00:25:38,710 --> 00:25:34,720
have happened

634
00:25:42,789 --> 00:25:40,630
one

635
00:25:44,070 --> 00:25:42,799
you know read after you go through all

636
00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:44,080
the different sightings we've gone

637
00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:46,000
through on the show and more that i've

638
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:48,000
gone through in my own time

639
00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:50,159
it was a complete

640
00:26:00,950 --> 00:25:58,630
you know um manipulating of the truth

641
00:26:02,870 --> 00:26:00,960
most definitely

642
00:26:04,470 --> 00:26:02,880
and a person like eric doesn't know that

643
00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:04,480
because he hasn't studied that stuff and

644
00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:06,960
looked at it as much as some of us have

645
00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:08,960
here

646
00:26:14,390 --> 00:26:11,840
you know but i think it could benefit

647
00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:14,400
him as much as a lot of other people in

648
00:26:18,549 --> 00:26:15,440
general

649
00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:18,559
um to just learn more about the history

650
00:26:21,909 --> 00:26:20,240
you know one of the reasons i look at

651
00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:21,919
those documents so much is because

652
00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:24,240
that's what's available

653
00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:25,919
you know

654
00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:27,440
that's what's available and you have to

655
00:26:32,149 --> 00:26:29,760
work with what you got and we have

656
00:26:36,149 --> 00:26:32,159
government-made documents

657
00:26:39,710 --> 00:26:37,510
you know

658
00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:39,720
some that are just like

659
00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:43,440
undisputable unknown

660
00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:44,880
there's no way

661
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:46,720
around it

662
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:48,880
and you also find a lot of

663
00:26:53,830 --> 00:26:51,520
you know kind of crappy things that the

664
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:53,840
air force did in other people

665
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:56,320
you also find that during blue book

666
00:26:59,430 --> 00:26:57,600
there were other people that were

667
00:27:05,350 --> 00:26:59,440
getting these reports of ufos which

668
00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:07,110
you know

669
00:27:11,909 --> 00:27:09,279
and all these people have more data than

670
00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:11,919
what we've seen you know

671
00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:14,000
most definitely so we've seen the blue

672
00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:16,400
book reports like the uh cheyenne

673
00:27:22,389 --> 00:27:19,679
wyoming 143 objects in three days by the

674
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:22,399
minutemen nuclear missile sites

675
00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:24,640
seen out of those watchtowers

676
00:27:33,029 --> 00:27:31,669
all that stuff was reported to

677
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:33,039
nsa

678
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:35,760
in norad

679
00:27:40,389 --> 00:27:38,000
you know so but what we don't have is

680
00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:40,399
what did nsa do with that

681
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,750
you know we don't have that

682
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,909
but

683
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:51,350
so

684
00:27:55,830 --> 00:27:53,440
you know i think it would be uh it would

685
00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:55,840
behoove uh

686
00:28:03,029 --> 00:27:59,840
you know scientists like uh weinstein um

687
00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:03,039
to not learn a little bit more about uh

688
00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:04,480
what happened with blue book because

689
00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:07,120
there's so much material available

690
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:08,720
so if he's listening and you want a

691
00:28:14,389 --> 00:28:11,520
brief let me know i can brief you

692
00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:14,399
i get my guy robert cofort in on this we

693
00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:16,640
can brief you on all that stuff

694
00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:19,120
um but you know we keep it real too like

695
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:20,640
i'm not sitting here saying like there's

696
00:28:24,549 --> 00:28:22,320
complete evidence of

697
00:28:26,310 --> 00:28:24,559
aliens or extraterrestrials there's just

698
00:28:28,870 --> 00:28:26,320
complete evidence that there's a

699
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:28,880
phenomenon you know

700
00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:32,640
that exists that is not explainable

701
00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:35,039
that have been seen by pilots

702
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:42,789
and you know um politicians

703
00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:46,630
so

704
00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:49,360
um you have to really know that to be

705
00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:51,200
convicted in the work you do moving

706
00:28:56,710 --> 00:28:54,159
forward so i think that's important

707
00:28:58,230 --> 00:28:56,720
um hopefully um he has a chance to look

708
00:29:00,070 --> 00:28:58,240
into that history because i know a lot

709
00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:00,080
of people aren't very interested in it

710
00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:03,520
because it isn't the now

711
00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:05,120
but it is

712
00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:06,720
beneficial because to know what's going

713
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:08,240
to happen

714
00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:17,990
um

715
00:29:23,350 --> 00:29:20,389
interesting uh pudov said a little

716
00:29:26,549 --> 00:29:23,360
something about videos uh

717
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:26,559
in cell phone videos he mentioned

718
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:27,840
you know the reason you don't get any

719
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:29,840
good videos with like cell phone footage

720
00:29:33,669 --> 00:29:31,520
is because well if they're bending space

721
00:29:35,110 --> 00:29:33,679
and time or whatever if they're bending

722
00:29:36,549 --> 00:29:35,120
lights around their vehicle you're not

723
00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:36,559
going to get a good picture because all

724
00:29:40,790 --> 00:29:39,200
you've taken a picture of is that

725
00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:40,800
okay fair enough um

726
00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:43,039
[Music]

727
00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:46,159
but then the topic came up of

728
00:29:49,269 --> 00:29:47,840
other videos that the government may

729
00:29:51,029 --> 00:29:49,279
have and

730
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:51,039
al pudov

731
00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:52,720
literally said

732
00:29:57,669 --> 00:29:56,640
when asked how good

733
00:30:00,149 --> 00:29:57,679
are they

734
00:30:02,470 --> 00:30:00,159
he said

735
00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:02,480
you know as good

736
00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:04,000
as you would

737
00:30:15,029 --> 00:30:10,389
so there's videos that exist that are as

738
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:21,029
and we don't have them

739
00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:23,590
we are given a 30-second video of

740
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:26,399
something that is either rotating or not

741
00:30:32,230 --> 00:30:28,320
and we have to deal with people talking

742
00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:32,240
about it for four freaking years

743
00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:33,440
and we haven't

744
00:30:39,269 --> 00:30:35,039
seen anything else we haven't even seen

745
00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:41,430
you know lou elizondo

746
00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:44,480
first mentioned the 23 minute video on

747
00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:47,200
this very show

748
00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:48,880
and he talked about how intense and

749
00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:50,480
crazy it is

750
00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:51,919
put off is out there saying there's

751
00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:53,679
videos

752
00:30:59,669 --> 00:30:56,000
that are not shown to us that are as

753
00:30:59,679 --> 00:31:02,389
you know

754
00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:05,350
look at those two those two

755
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:07,840
things right there like

756
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,950
why are you hiding these

757
00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:19,669
you know whatever happens with this

758
00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:21,760
stuff you know whether whatever the

759
00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:24,799
phenomenon winds up being whatever

760
00:31:28,389 --> 00:31:26,159
you know time

761
00:31:30,149 --> 00:31:28,399
people spend on this stuff

762
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:30,159
you know let's say you know worst case

763
00:31:34,870 --> 00:31:32,880
scenario that everyone who studies this

764
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:34,880
stuff is just a complete waste of time

765
00:31:39,909 --> 00:31:37,039
for whatever reason i know it's not but

766
00:31:44,149 --> 00:31:42,149
and then finally we learn after people

767
00:31:46,149 --> 00:31:44,159
died studying it their entire life that

768
00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:46,159
it is

769
00:31:49,590 --> 00:31:47,919
everything's prosaic

770
00:31:51,509 --> 00:31:49,600
well who's responsible for that the

771
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:51,519
government is responsible for that

772
00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:53,919
because they haven't shown these videos

773
00:31:58,230 --> 00:31:56,399
and the information they have

774
00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:58,240
and meanwhile they let people spend

775
00:32:02,630 --> 00:32:00,480
their lives researching it when they

776
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:02,640
have information

777
00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:04,720
that could shed a whole bunch of light

778
00:32:07,029 --> 00:32:05,760
on it

779
00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:07,039
you know

780
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:09,120
that's people who could have been

781
00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:11,440
you know playing more music or

782
00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:14,240
you know working on themselves in some

783
00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:16,000
way shape or form

784
00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:18,240
that it doesn't revolve around ufos but

785
00:32:21,590 --> 00:32:20,000
because they had this sighting and this

786
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:21,600
experience they spend their whole life

787
00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:23,120
and dedicate to it

788
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:29,110
you know

789
00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:30,559
meanwhile the government looks at this

790
00:32:35,029 --> 00:32:33,760
23-minute 23-minute video that's as good

791
00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:35,039
as you could want

792
00:32:41,430 --> 00:32:37,360
and just laughs at the person who's

793
00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:41,440
studying blue book files for years

794
00:32:46,549 --> 00:32:42,399
basically

795
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:49,830
that's wrong

796
00:32:53,909 --> 00:32:52,310
that is wrong so if you want to talk

797
00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:53,919
about the government maybe knowing some

798
00:32:59,029 --> 00:32:56,399
physics and not sharing it with other

799
00:33:01,029 --> 00:32:59,039
scientists

800
00:33:04,389 --> 00:33:01,039
and could that be possible

801
00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:06,310
it's possible

802
00:33:11,110 --> 00:33:08,960
because the scenario i just explained is

803
00:33:13,029 --> 00:33:11,120
crappy in and of itself for the

804
00:33:19,029 --> 00:33:13,039
government to do to people

805
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:21,830
like enough is enough here

806
00:33:25,830 --> 00:33:23,519
how long are you gonna let people come

807
00:33:27,269 --> 00:33:25,840
in and take advantage first of all of

808
00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:27,279
this

809
00:33:30,430 --> 00:33:29,600
write bullcrap books

810
00:33:34,230 --> 00:33:30,440
about

811
00:33:36,149 --> 00:33:34,240
143 extraterrestrials

812
00:33:38,149 --> 00:33:36,159
you know but maybe it isn't bullcrap i

813
00:33:45,029 --> 00:33:38,159
don't know but people are making money

814
00:33:50,230 --> 00:33:46,950
and meanwhile

815
00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:50,240
government just lets it play out

816
00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:52,240
lets some people tell the truth but be

817
00:33:55,830 --> 00:33:53,600
blinded

818
00:33:57,909 --> 00:33:55,840
and camouflaged by people that don't

819
00:34:04,389 --> 00:33:57,919
tell the truth and take advantage

820
00:34:09,909 --> 00:34:06,310
um good question eve i want to start a

821
00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:09,919
petition andres actually has a great

822
00:34:13,829 --> 00:34:12,800
petition that i shared in the last show

823
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:13,839
um

824
00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:16,079
and i wanted to put it in initial too

825
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:17,200
but i just

826
00:34:21,030 --> 00:34:18,399
completely

827
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:21,040
blanked out but there is a good one

828
00:34:30,550 --> 00:34:27,190
you know and then we have this uh uap

829
00:34:34,629 --> 00:34:32,550
and they're supposed to be

830
00:34:38,550 --> 00:34:34,639
transparent with congress or whatever an

831
00:34:39,669 --> 00:34:38,560
oversight then who the hell knows

832
00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:39,679
who the hell knows what's going to

833
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:41,520
happen

834
00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:43,040
you obviously have the department of the

835
00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:46,560
defense and aoi msg playing games right

836
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:49,200
off the start at the creation of the

837
00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:51,520
gilded brand amendment

838
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,589
you know

839
00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:01,109
right away

840
00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:02,880
starting that office right before the

841
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,790
trying to control everything

842
00:35:14,950 --> 00:35:12,630
and here we are the people that actually

843
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:14,960
pay all these people to work we pay them

844
00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:17,359
we're their boss

845
00:35:25,349 --> 00:35:23,670
whatever the truth is

846
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:25,359
they have a lot more of it and they're

847
00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:28,240
not sharing it with us

848
00:35:31,030 --> 00:35:30,160
and so we have to deal with arguments

849
00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:31,040
over

850
00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:32,560
mick west

851
00:35:42,870 --> 00:35:39,670
you know and

852
00:35:47,990 --> 00:35:44,950
or i would say debunkers not even

853
00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:48,000
skeptics debunkers

854
00:35:54,390 --> 00:35:51,520
or just um columnists

855
00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:54,400
who all they seem to do is write about

856
00:36:01,270 --> 00:35:58,640
other people in ufology and on them

857
00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:01,280
like that's their job

858
00:36:05,829 --> 00:36:04,000
is to spend so much time

859
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:05,839
around something they don't even believe

860
00:36:13,990 --> 00:36:11,670
like the jason calvato vito

861
00:36:15,910 --> 00:36:14,000
whatever

862
00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:15,920
who spends all their time around

863
00:36:19,109 --> 00:36:17,359
something they don't even believe in who

864
00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:19,119
does that

865
00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:21,520
it's like me just going on

866
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:23,040
a mermaid's

867
00:36:26,950 --> 00:36:25,200
you know facebook group

868
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:26,960
and just saying oh your full crap

869
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:28,560
mermaids aren't real and just like

870
00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:30,000
looking at it all the time writing

871
00:36:36,069 --> 00:36:32,480
articles about it

872
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:36,079
and how stupid it is like

873
00:36:40,710 --> 00:36:38,560
who does that

874
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:40,720
and they want to say that

875
00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:42,000
you know the people who believe in this

876
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:43,920
stuff are messed up in the head

877
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:46,480
uh well when you actually look at it for

878
00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:49,200
what it is like how i just described

879
00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:52,560
um that is not true

880
00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:54,400
you have to reverse

881
00:37:02,310 --> 00:36:59,990
it's the writers

882
00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:02,320
who have the problem

883
00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:04,160
and if they want to seem

884
00:37:07,109 --> 00:37:05,760
mentally stable they should be

885
00:37:08,790 --> 00:37:07,119
transparent

886
00:37:10,950 --> 00:37:08,800
if somebody is

887
00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:10,960
paying them to do that

888
00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:12,960
because as we've learned

889
00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:14,240
there are

890
00:37:19,990 --> 00:37:16,960
so to speak stigma agents

891
00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:20,000
who believe it is their job to character

892
00:37:30,550 --> 00:37:28,150
last thing here a part of that interview

893
00:37:34,069 --> 00:37:30,560
that was been touched on by elizondo and

894
00:37:34,829 --> 00:37:34,079
other people that the capabilities of

895
00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:34,839
our

896
00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:40,870
um

897
00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:42,880
as they progress

898
00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:44,960
it will make it exceedingly

899
00:37:53,990 --> 00:37:48,240
difficult to differentiate

900
00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:55,430
and we've heard that before the only

901
00:38:01,030 --> 00:37:58,640
thing i can think of is

902
00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:01,040
that can only be possible if we maybe

903
00:38:06,069 --> 00:38:03,520
have some of those materials and maybe

904
00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:06,079
figured out how to engineer similar

905
00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:08,480
things

906
00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:11,680
and how would that happen without those

907
00:38:17,829 --> 00:38:14,560
ufo type of materials

908
00:38:20,470 --> 00:38:17,839
or understanding that those ufo type of

909
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:22,150
you know

910
00:38:25,190 --> 00:38:23,760
so i thought that was very interesting

911
00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:25,200
and

912
00:38:28,630 --> 00:38:26,800
i'm not gonna have time to get into this

913
00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:28,640
today

914
00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:30,079
but

915
00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:31,680
you know i took a lot of what they said

916
00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:33,839
went and did my own research and i found

917
00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:35,680
a lot i just don't have the time to

918
00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:36,480
share

919
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:39,280
right now but i'm going to

920
00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:41,200
um but one name that keeps popping up

921
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:42,560
for me

922
00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:46,000
is thomas bearden

923
00:38:51,270 --> 00:38:47,680
so if you know anything on that guy let

924
00:38:54,630 --> 00:38:53,349
i found some very interesting stuff from

925
00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:54,640
him

926
00:39:00,790 --> 00:38:56,160
that i would like to get into at some

927
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:02,630
so

928
00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:06,000
that about does it for our

929
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:08,640
coverage so to speak

930
00:39:13,829 --> 00:39:11,520
on that interview i put the link in the

931
00:39:15,430 --> 00:39:13,839
description

932
00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:15,440
you should definitely go

933
00:39:19,109 --> 00:39:16,800
check it out

934
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:19,119
uh james hetfield

935
00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:21,040
yes this guy

936
00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:22,720
i found some very interesting stuff on

937
00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:24,240
him um

938
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:26,960
i know some people have said

939
00:39:32,230 --> 00:39:29,440
not such great things i'm a little green

940
00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:32,240
to the person but what i found um i

941
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:34,640
found a few documents on government

942
00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:36,880
sources

943
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:38,480
um that were

944
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:41,040
pretty interesting

945
00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:42,880
so the next thing i wanted to get into

946
00:39:45,829 --> 00:39:44,400
here

947
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:45,839
um

948
00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:50,870
is

949
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:53,280
uh dave beatty dave beatty has been

950
00:40:00,310 --> 00:39:56,400
researching this uh 2019

951
00:40:01,510 --> 00:40:00,320
um ufo uap swarms that you know in the

952
00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:01,520
log books

953
00:40:09,829 --> 00:40:07,990
um

954
00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:09,839
and i don't think it's really you know

955
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:11,760
figured out

956
00:40:16,069 --> 00:40:13,920
as far as what it actually is yet so

957
00:40:18,069 --> 00:40:16,079
that's why i put ufo

958
00:40:19,109 --> 00:40:18,079
because it's they're identified flying

959
00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:19,119
objects

960
00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:20,560
so whatever

961
00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:25,910
so i just wanted to touch on that a

962
00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:27,839
little bit i put the link for his

963
00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:29,520
article in

964
00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:31,200
the description it came out on

965
00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:33,440
blackfold.com it's really well done well

966
00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:36,000
written very descriptive

967
00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:38,240
um there's really great timelines in

968
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:39,040
there

969
00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:42,720
um he has i think uh an anonymous source

970
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:45,280
and one that isn't anonymous that came

971
00:40:50,550 --> 00:40:48,000
out and emailed him a little bit

972
00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:50,560
um so it's really fantastic i mean there

973
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:52,960
there were a lot of ships involved

974
00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:54,480
with this

975
00:40:58,150 --> 00:40:56,640
um over the course of many days of

976
00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:58,160
basically the whole month of july i

977
00:41:02,390 --> 00:40:59,359
think it was

978
00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:02,400
um uss kidd uss russell uss paul

979
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:03,520
hamilton

980
00:41:08,390 --> 00:41:06,560
um pinckney john finn

981
00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:08,400
uss raphael

982
00:41:14,470 --> 00:41:10,480
peralta omaha

983
00:41:17,829 --> 00:41:14,480
giffords roosevelt and uss bunker hill

984
00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:19,750
that's a lot and a couple great quotes

985
00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:21,440
are in there that he got from his source

986
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:24,160
one of which is this i quote my boy said

987
00:41:27,670 --> 00:41:26,640
they look like big tic tacs nothing like

988
00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:27,680
a drone

989
00:41:31,270 --> 00:41:29,280
he said he could see them with the naked

990
00:41:33,670 --> 00:41:31,280
eye and they were almost eye level with

991
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:33,680
the bridge hovering

992
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:35,440
they were the same tic-tac-shaped

993
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:42,710
pretty interesting another quote

994
00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:44,240
this is about the snoopy team whenever

995
00:41:49,109 --> 00:41:46,160
the snoopy team is called away they come

996
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:49,119
with high-end dslr cameras and video

997
00:41:53,670 --> 00:41:51,040
cameras also calling away the snoopy

998
00:41:55,990 --> 00:41:53,680
team in u.s waters is definitely not

999
00:41:59,829 --> 00:41:56,000
something normally done

1000
00:42:03,270 --> 00:41:59,839
and doing so at night is really unusual

1001
00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:03,280
the team's main purpose is to help id a

1002
00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:04,880
vessel of interest

1003
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:08,000
or document something unusual

1004
00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:15,750
this is pretty good another quote from

1005
00:42:20,069 --> 00:42:17,280
this anonymous guy

1006
00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:20,079
um i was there during during that

1007
00:42:22,870 --> 00:42:21,040
show

1008
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:22,880
one of the controllers and i actually

1009
00:42:26,069 --> 00:42:24,730
intercepted one of these

1010
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:26,079
[Music]

1011
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:30,400
uh we had one versus one f a 18 super

1012
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:32,720
hornets go up and one of the jets went

1013
00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:34,400
down from maintenance before lunch so it

1014
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:35,920
was up on a single ship we got

1015
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:38,160
permission from whiskey

1016
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:40,640
and they ran out on it on the intercept

1017
00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:45,430
oops

1018
00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:46,960
on the intercept the pilot was radio

1019
00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:48,560
silent but once he came back on the

1020
00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:50,800
radio he was freaked out

1021
00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:52,480
and said he had never seen anything

1022
00:42:56,710 --> 00:42:54,400
perform like

1023
00:42:58,470 --> 00:42:56,720
that as it descended vertically right in

1024
00:43:00,790 --> 00:42:58,480
front of them

1025
00:43:02,870 --> 00:43:00,800
also i know of another operations

1026
00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:02,880
specialist from the ship who has run

1027
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:06,720
into these again in the socal

1028
00:43:11,349 --> 00:43:10,240
operating area recently

1029
00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:11,359
did you hear about the incident

1030
00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:14,400
involving the uss kid in 2019

1031
00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:19,990
so we have all this stuff

1032
00:43:24,790 --> 00:43:22,800
people talking about wonderful

1033
00:43:26,950 --> 00:43:24,800
well depending what they turn out to be

1034
00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:26,960
i guess but long clear as good as you

1035
00:43:39,109 --> 00:43:34,870
dude come on man

1036
00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:43,990
stop this bull crap

1037
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:47,270
time to stop the bull crap all right so

1038
00:43:52,829 --> 00:43:50,000
uh check out that article um i don't

1039
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:55,109
know i'm just gonna be honest i don't

1040
00:43:59,670 --> 00:43:57,200
really care for greenwald but

1041
00:44:01,349 --> 00:43:59,680
dave beatty is a great researcher and

1042
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:01,359
that's the medium he chose to release

1043
00:44:05,270 --> 00:44:03,760
his stuff so

1044
00:44:07,349 --> 00:44:05,280
you know um

1045
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:07,359
when it comes down to it i'm about truth

1046
00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:09,760
over you know people's

1047
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:11,520
individuals all that kind of stuff so i

1048
00:44:14,470 --> 00:44:12,960
don't care where he put it it's good

1049
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:14,480
work

1050
00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:16,720
um you should go check it out

1051
00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:18,319
so

1052
00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:20,319
eve classy thanks for the super sticker

1053
00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:22,880
i appreciate it i'd take money

1054
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:24,480
i'm not going to really ask you for it

1055
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:27,440
or beg you for it or act like this is a

1056
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:33,270
um but if you want to give it

1057
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:36,400
that's awesome

1058
00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:39,280
that is awesome it's more reason for me

1059
00:44:44,390 --> 00:44:42,800
to do this stuff that's for sure

1060
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:44,400
definitely is

1061
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:47,200
and i won't lie about that

1062
00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:51,119
next up on the show we got one of uh our

1063
00:44:55,670 --> 00:44:52,560
favorite

1064
00:44:57,990 --> 00:44:55,680
segments is where we play some testimony

1065
00:45:00,069 --> 00:44:58,000
from some ufo sightings

1066
00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:00,079
back in the day

1067
00:45:06,230 --> 00:45:03,119
this one is super interesting

1068
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:06,240
it is 1947

1069
00:45:13,190 --> 00:45:08,880
oak ridge tennessee

1070
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:15,670
and um i have the photos from blue book

1071
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:17,440
that i put over

1072
00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:19,200
the testimony so you can look at them as

1073
00:45:22,870 --> 00:45:20,640
the dude talks

1074
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:22,880
so exactly when and where did you see

1075
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:24,800
yourself mr brummett

1076
00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:27,599
it was about dark two weeks ago the day

1077
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:29,119
before reports were carried in the

1078
00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:31,200
papers all over the country i saw it

1079
00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:33,040
from the front porch in elizabethton for

1080
00:45:36,550 --> 00:45:34,800
about five seconds

1081
00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:36,560
the front part of the object was over

1082
00:45:40,870 --> 00:45:39,040
shaped it was a dark bluish color and

1083
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:40,880
had a flaming red tail

1084
00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:42,720
it was moving horizontal to the earth

1085
00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:44,960
just like an airplane but it wasn't for

1086
00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:47,280
the lights was quipping you said had a

1087
00:45:50,230 --> 00:45:49,200
red tail could it have been a falling

1088
00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:50,240
star

1089
00:45:55,829 --> 00:45:54,000
my life but never anything like this

1090
00:45:57,510 --> 00:45:55,839
flying saucer before

1091
00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:57,520
it was too bright and too red to be a

1092
00:46:00,150 --> 00:45:58,400
star

1093
00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:00,160
well warden brummett there's a rumor in

1094
00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:02,640
these parts that the dancing death might

1095
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:04,720
be atomic energy on the loose from oak

1096
00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:05,680
ridge

1097
00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:07,200
i don't believe that

1098
00:46:10,069 --> 00:46:08,960
if it had anything to do with atomic

1099
00:46:11,990 --> 00:46:10,079
energy the government would have

1100
00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:12,000
announced it by this time certainly well

1101
00:46:18,870 --> 00:46:13,680
thank you state game warden ernest

1102
00:46:24,870 --> 00:46:22,710
as kind of a short one so but i have

1103
00:46:26,550 --> 00:46:24,880
um a couple more that are pretty good

1104
00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:26,560
but that was interesting and the case

1105
00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:28,560
for that is very interesting as well

1106
00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:31,040
that i'd like to get into on um an

1107
00:46:33,190 --> 00:46:32,240
episode

1108
00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:33,200
um

1109
00:46:36,110 --> 00:46:35,760
soon hopefully

1110
00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:36,120
um

1111
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:37,280
[Music]

1112
00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:40,960
because oak ridge 1947 is is just yeah

1113
00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:42,640
it's really good one

1114
00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:44,800
it's a really really good one

1115
00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:46,480
so let's see

1116
00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:48,800
um this one

1117
00:46:54,829 --> 00:46:50,480
is

1118
00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:54,839
a report from a police officer

1119
00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:56,480
and

1120
00:47:02,309 --> 00:46:59,920
um this kid reported this um sighting of

1121
00:47:04,069 --> 00:47:02,319
the ufo coming out of the lake it's

1122
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:04,079
pretty good

1123
00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:06,160
reporting center hi this is sergeants

1124
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:07,760
from the webster massachusetts police

1125
00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:10,800
calling we have a resident that's uh

1126
00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:12,560
claiming they saw something today that

1127
00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:14,319
they've never seen before

1128
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:16,079
in the lake area

1129
00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:17,920
and i was just there and i took a

1130
00:47:23,510 --> 00:47:20,160
statement from this individual and seems

1131
00:47:25,829 --> 00:47:23,520
to be okay you know not living in the

1132
00:47:27,910 --> 00:47:25,839
future or the past or anything like that

1133
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:27,920
and very adamant about what they saw

1134
00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:28,800
okay

1135
00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:30,640
it's a young man about 11 years old

1136
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:32,480
who's not in school today but he was

1137
00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:34,079
home with his dad but his dad

1138
00:47:36,829 --> 00:47:35,520
unfortunately was in the shower at the

1139
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:36,839
time he made this

1140
00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:39,119
observation they live on the lake

1141
00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:41,520
waterfront property okay and he claims

1142
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:43,040
he was standing in his living room

1143
00:47:46,390 --> 00:47:44,880
overlooking the lake through a large

1144
00:47:48,470 --> 00:47:46,400
glass window

1145
00:47:51,589 --> 00:47:48,480
and about 30 feet from the shoreline he

1146
00:47:52,549 --> 00:47:51,599
saw what he believed to be bubbles that

1147
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:52,559
come

1148
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:54,640
up through the water yes

1149
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:56,880
and the bubbles became more

1150
00:48:01,670 --> 00:47:59,359
uh prevalent as he watched and then came

1151
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:01,680
to a point like they were boiling

1152
00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:04,960
in a circumference of about 15 feet yes

1153
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:07,599
after eight to 12 seconds of this

1154
00:48:11,589 --> 00:48:09,760
boiling he saw an object come up out of

1155
00:48:12,549 --> 00:48:11,599
the water and go straight up into the

1156
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:12,559
air

1157
00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:13,680
it was a

1158
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:15,520
circular colored

1159
00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:17,680
circular shaped object

1160
00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:20,480
probably 12 to 15 feet in diameter about

1161
00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:22,800
four to five feet height

1162
00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:24,640
and it was brown

1163
00:48:29,589 --> 00:48:27,599
or black in color real dark color okay

1164
00:48:31,829 --> 00:48:29,599
it wasn't spinning

1165
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:31,839
i didn't make any noise

1166
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:33,359
and it just went right straight up until

1167
00:48:37,349 --> 00:48:35,280
it went out of sight

1168
00:48:39,430 --> 00:48:37,359
and i talked to the kid at length i

1169
00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:39,440
asked him he hadn't seen any tv shows

1170
00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:41,040
concerning this type of

1171
00:48:47,109 --> 00:48:42,960
thing or reading any books

1172
00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:47,119
he says no a very intelligent kid

1173
00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:48,480
i had no reason to believe he's not

1174
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:53,430
i've never dealt with anything like this

1175
00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:55,359
before so you know i'm sure i didn't ask

1176
00:48:59,109 --> 00:48:57,440
some of the right questions but uh it's

1177
00:49:00,950 --> 00:48:59,119
not a kid that's living you know a

1178
00:49:03,349 --> 00:49:00,960
fantasy life anyway very intelligent

1179
00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:03,359
young man

1180
00:49:08,069 --> 00:49:05,280
he made this observation

1181
00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:08,079
around 11 o'clock this morning okay what

1182
00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:09,200
was the city

1183
00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:11,760
webster webster right what was the name

1184
00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:13,440
of that play

1185
00:49:18,870 --> 00:49:15,200
well we call it what's the lake but it's

1186
00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:21,109
okay that's the one you've heard of that

1187
00:49:26,069 --> 00:49:22,480
one

1188
00:49:30,230 --> 00:49:28,630
i don't know what that was about but

1189
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:30,240
um so that was a pretty interesting one

1190
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:32,490
young kid coming out of the lake um

1191
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:34,240
[Music]

1192
00:49:37,270 --> 00:49:35,680
you know what are you supposed to do

1193
00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:37,280
with that he's an intelligent kid he

1194
00:49:40,230 --> 00:49:38,800
said they had his wits about him

1195
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:40,240
reported this the police took it

1196
00:49:43,670 --> 00:49:42,720
seriously enough to to call it in

1197
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:43,680
um

1198
00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:45,359
pretty interesting

1199
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:50,800
you know i

1200
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:52,960
and you hear about these child

1201
00:49:57,109 --> 00:49:54,960
um sightings

1202
00:49:58,870 --> 00:49:57,119
from the past like i i feel like i hear

1203
00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:58,880
about a new one all the time and then

1204
00:50:02,630 --> 00:50:00,640
you can go straight to the aerial school

1205
00:50:03,829 --> 00:50:02,640
westdall all those

1206
00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:03,839
um

1207
00:50:08,950 --> 00:50:05,839
although the one thing i hear sometimes

1208
00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:08,960
is you know kids wouldn't lie

1209
00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:13,990
you know full disclosure i was a kid

1210
00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:15,839
once

1211
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:17,280
and

1212
00:50:22,069 --> 00:50:19,520
i also lied

1213
00:50:24,829 --> 00:50:22,079
not about a ufo but uh

1214
00:50:27,670 --> 00:50:24,839
i've lived before as a kid

1215
00:50:30,309 --> 00:50:27,680
um but you know the group sightings like

1216
00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:30,319
that stuff is too complicated to be in

1217
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:31,680
sync with all those different kids

1218
00:50:34,950 --> 00:50:34,000
explaining the same thing like that but

1219
00:50:37,030 --> 00:50:34,960
um

1220
00:50:40,150 --> 00:50:37,040
i don't know i don't know why this

1221
00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:40,160
intelligent smart kid would you know

1222
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:41,920
report something like that if there was

1223
00:50:45,510 --> 00:50:43,440
no truth to it

1224
00:50:47,349 --> 00:50:45,520
you know can i say it is true or not

1225
00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:47,359
true no

1226
00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:49,359
but uh it's definitely worth listening

1227
00:50:54,150 --> 00:50:51,920
to this last video or some clip i wanted

1228
00:50:56,069 --> 00:50:54,160
to play is really interesting because

1229
00:50:57,349 --> 00:50:56,079
it's um a case that i've done a lot of

1230
00:51:01,990 --> 00:50:57,359
research on

1231
00:51:03,990 --> 00:51:02,000
and it's um washington dc 1952

1232
00:51:05,430 --> 00:51:04,000
in july

1233
00:51:06,710 --> 00:51:05,440
there were

1234
00:51:08,470 --> 00:51:06,720
you probably know the story over the

1235
00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:08,480
course of two weekends there's a lot of

1236
00:51:13,589 --> 00:51:10,960
different sightings visual radar got

1237
00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:13,599
chalked up to um temperature inversions

1238
00:51:18,069 --> 00:51:15,599
which i've debunked

1239
00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:18,079
um in a separate video that i've that i

1240
00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:20,559
put forth on my youtube channel

1241
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:23,119
about those sightings

1242
00:51:27,589 --> 00:51:25,440
um but i wish i would have known about

1243
00:51:29,430 --> 00:51:27,599
this clip that i'm about to play then

1244
00:51:33,030 --> 00:51:29,440
because i think it's pretty impactful

1245
00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:33,040
especially the story that he tells um

1246
00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:35,520
which you know i've read about in in

1247
00:51:41,430 --> 00:51:38,880
documents but just hearing albert chop

1248
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:41,440
discuss it uh it's pretty breathtaking

1249
00:51:45,349 --> 00:51:44,160
about how they've vectored a jet or a

1250
00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:45,359
plane

1251
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:47,280
to these

1252
00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:49,119
um you have these blips on the on the

1253
00:51:53,829 --> 00:51:51,680
radar and he

1254
00:51:55,190 --> 00:51:53,839
reported describing

1255
00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:55,200
uh seeing them

1256
00:51:58,390 --> 00:51:57,359
basically surround them

1257
00:52:00,549 --> 00:51:58,400
so

1258
00:52:02,790 --> 00:52:00,559
it's a pretty good one

1259
00:52:05,430 --> 00:52:02,800
well there had been sightings made from

1260
00:52:07,750 --> 00:52:05,440
the ground people seeing strange lights

1261
00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:07,760
in the sky there had been a radar

1262
00:52:12,790 --> 00:52:09,839
observation that happened on a saturday

1263
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:12,800
night and it was carried in the papers

1264
00:52:16,390 --> 00:52:14,640
throughout the country the next day the

1265
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:16,400
reports of the sightings

1266
00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:18,960
and that didn't cause too much of a stir

1267
00:52:24,230 --> 00:52:21,440
however the following saturday night

1268
00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:24,240
the same thing happened the ground radar

1269
00:52:29,430 --> 00:52:26,480
at washington international was picking

1270
00:52:32,069 --> 00:52:29,440
up ufo returns and people were reporting

1271
00:52:35,109 --> 00:52:32,079
eyewitness sightings of strange lights

1272
00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:35,119
in the sky and the press having gone

1273
00:52:38,870 --> 00:52:36,960
through this thing the week before were

1274
00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:38,880
better prepared and they were down at

1275
00:52:43,910 --> 00:52:40,960
the gate at the washington international

1276
00:52:45,910 --> 00:52:43,920
airport and were asking for answers to

1277
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:45,920
their questions on what these things

1278
00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:47,760
were that were being picked up by radar

1279
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:49,280
somehow they got the word that they were

1280
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:51,280
being picked up by radar and so they

1281
00:52:54,710 --> 00:52:52,880
called me at home and i went on down

1282
00:52:55,910 --> 00:52:54,720
there to see if we couldn't answer some

1283
00:52:58,069 --> 00:52:55,920
of the questions

1284
00:52:59,829 --> 00:52:58,079
and when i got down there my

1285
00:53:01,349 --> 00:52:59,839
life magazine was there and a few other

1286
00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:01,359
publications some of the local

1287
00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:03,760
newspapers and we did ask the air

1288
00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:05,680
defense command to send up a flight of

1289
00:53:10,549 --> 00:53:08,160
interceptors they did send up a flight

1290
00:53:12,549 --> 00:53:10,559
the flight failed to see anything

1291
00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:12,559
although we were getting the target

1292
00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:14,480
returns on the ground and trying to

1293
00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:17,200
direct them to the targets they failed

1294
00:53:22,150 --> 00:53:20,000
to report that they saw anything and uh

1295
00:53:24,069 --> 00:53:22,160
subsequently they went back to newcastle

1296
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:24,079
delaware where they were based and along

1297
00:53:27,589 --> 00:53:25,920
about two or three in the morning we

1298
00:53:29,670 --> 00:53:27,599
asked for another flight because we were

1299
00:53:31,990 --> 00:53:29,680
still getting these returns and they

1300
00:53:34,470 --> 00:53:32,000
sent up another flight this time one of

1301
00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:34,480
the pilots reported that he did see a

1302
00:53:39,030 --> 00:53:36,480
group of lights that we were trying to

1303
00:53:41,349 --> 00:53:39,040
direct him to or a group of targets

1304
00:53:43,990 --> 00:53:41,359
and he flew towards them

1305
00:53:46,230 --> 00:53:44,000
and obviously from his report then they

1306
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:46,240
appeared to be all around him which he

1307
00:53:50,870 --> 00:53:48,720
reported to us and then they moved off

1308
00:53:52,549 --> 00:53:50,880
according to the ground radar and

1309
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:52,559
according to his report he said they're

1310
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:53,680
going away

1311
00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:55,760
and he then returned to the base and

1312
00:54:09,430 --> 00:53:57,440
that's about the gist of what happened

1313
00:54:14,549 --> 00:54:11,030
yeah so those are pretty impactful

1314
00:54:15,990 --> 00:54:14,559
sightings 1952 july um

1315
00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:16,000
pretty

1316
00:54:24,309 --> 00:54:20,640
just that whole year was

1317
00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:24,319
was bananas as far as sightings by far

1318
00:54:30,230 --> 00:54:27,119
the biggest year of ufos and reported

1319
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:30,240
sightings most definitely

1320
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:33,119
and so yeah just want to play that hope

1321
00:54:35,910 --> 00:54:34,720
you enjoyed it it's interesting hearing

1322
00:54:36,829 --> 00:54:35,920
about that

1323
00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:36,839
um

1324
00:54:42,390 --> 00:54:40,400
now what we're gonna do

1325
00:54:44,069 --> 00:54:42,400
is

1326
00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:44,079
something

1327
00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:46,559
fun where we kind of just lay back relax

1328
00:54:56,069 --> 00:54:54,309
what the heck is that what the heck is

1329
00:55:03,510 --> 00:54:56,079
that

1330
00:55:04,390 --> 00:55:03,520
uh you may

1331
00:55:08,390 --> 00:55:04,400
but

1332
00:55:10,069 --> 00:55:08,400
that's not important because i don't

1333
00:55:11,670 --> 00:55:10,079
so today today we're going to do

1334
00:55:13,670 --> 00:55:11,680
something a little uh different with

1335
00:55:16,309 --> 00:55:13,680
that um

1336
00:55:18,549 --> 00:55:16,319
you can find a lot of videos on reddit

1337
00:55:22,230 --> 00:55:18,559
now a lot of the videos are crap on

1338
00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:22,240
reddit um probably most of them

1339
00:55:26,150 --> 00:55:24,000
but

1340
00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:26,160
there's probably the biggest supply of

1341
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:27,040
home

1342
00:55:32,470 --> 00:55:29,920
uh filmed videos off reddit so i hope

1343
00:55:34,950 --> 00:55:32,480
you don't mind what i did here is really

1344
00:55:37,510 --> 00:55:34,960
just did like a screen

1345
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:37,520
recording on my phone of it

1346
00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:39,440
and

1347
00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:41,760
we're just going to

1348
00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:43,599
look at that pretty much

1349
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,630
and

1350
00:55:54,069 --> 00:55:52,549
i don't know why it's not sharing it

1351
00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:54,079
though

1352
00:55:57,349 --> 00:55:55,599
for some reason

1353
00:56:07,910 --> 00:55:57,359
so

1354
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:14,150
here we go the first one

1355
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,910
ah no sound sorry about that

1356
00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:20,069
i screwed that up

1357
00:56:22,720 --> 00:56:28,710
that looks pretty crazy

1358
00:56:33,109 --> 00:56:30,870
oh it's split in two i didn't notice

1359
00:56:49,349 --> 00:56:33,119
that the first time

1360
00:56:49,359 --> 00:56:56,630
and just got split into here

1361
00:57:00,390 --> 00:56:58,470
yeah so that's one i didn't get the

1362
00:57:01,990 --> 00:57:00,400
sound unfortunately but

1363
00:57:03,910 --> 00:57:02,000
you know what are they gonna say

1364
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:03,920
what do you expect them to say oh this

1365
00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:06,400
is fake i'm making this up this is not a

1366
00:57:09,349 --> 00:57:08,160
real video

1367
00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:09,359
you know they're not saying that

1368
00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:11,760
probably saying something like whoa

1369
00:57:15,670 --> 00:57:14,400
or cool

1370
00:57:17,109 --> 00:57:15,680
look at that

1371
00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:17,119
you know something like that so here's

1372
00:57:22,309 --> 00:57:18,480
the other one

1373
00:57:41,109 --> 00:57:22,319
not as good if you ask me but

1374
00:57:45,510 --> 00:57:43,829
this is interesting to me too it's hard

1375
00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:45,520
to tell what it is without a field of

1376
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:55,270
you know

1377
00:57:57,910 --> 00:57:56,069
so

1378
00:57:59,190 --> 00:57:57,920
i don't know maybe

1379
00:58:01,349 --> 00:57:59,200
especially if you're looking at this

1380
00:58:04,870 --> 00:58:01,359
stuff on a phone maybe the

1381
00:58:09,030 --> 00:58:04,880
uh reddit videos isn't

1382
00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:09,040
a fantastic way to go

1383
00:58:14,470 --> 00:58:11,200
because it makes it to you know because

1384
00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:16,710
so

1385
00:58:23,589 --> 00:58:19,680
maybe it not the best way to go

1386
00:58:26,230 --> 00:58:23,599
but we can watch this one

1387
00:58:29,510 --> 00:58:26,240
that i have saved on youtube by the way

1388
00:58:31,589 --> 00:58:29,520
i encourage you to email me and send me

1389
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:31,599
your videos you don't have to have taken

1390
00:58:34,789 --> 00:58:33,280
them but videos that you would like to

1391
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:34,799
see

1392
00:58:41,589 --> 00:58:37,280
on this show that's less work i have to

1393
00:58:44,789 --> 00:58:41,599
do so you can email them to me at um

1394
00:58:48,549 --> 00:58:47,190
at witness citizen dot com you can email

1395
00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:48,559
them to me

1396
00:58:57,670 --> 00:58:53,440
and i can incorporate them in this

1397
00:59:02,710 --> 00:58:59,349
and i would

1398
00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:03,750
you know

1399
00:59:07,990 --> 00:59:06,000
some other people

1400
00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:08,000
taking part and doing their thing that

1401
00:59:11,430 --> 00:59:09,599
way so

1402
00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:11,440
this is the last one we're going to

1403
00:59:14,630 --> 00:59:13,520
watch

1404
00:59:15,829 --> 00:59:14,640
and

1405
00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:15,839
you guys have probably seen this one

1406
00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:17,200
already

1407
00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:19,280
to be quite honest with you

1408
00:59:22,549 --> 00:59:20,160
but

1409
00:59:25,030 --> 00:59:22,559
it's a pretty good one

1410
00:59:27,349 --> 00:59:25,040
about some of the day's most interesting

1411
00:59:29,510 --> 00:59:27,359
stories including another video richard

1412
00:59:31,270 --> 00:59:29,520
from high in the skies that's very hard

1413
00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:31,280
to explain

1414
00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:33,280
yeah what is it erica i want to show you

1415
00:59:37,829 --> 00:59:35,520
this it's another ufo video that's been

1416
00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:37,839
making the rounds this is i was it

1417
00:59:42,470 --> 00:59:39,520
appeared on social media it was shot by

1418
00:59:44,470 --> 00:59:42,480
a u.s military pilot uh who was flying

1419
00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:44,480
over the south china sea

1420
00:59:49,190 --> 00:59:46,400
filmed on the 24th of november it just

1421
00:59:50,789 --> 00:59:49,200
came out last week pilot was at 39 000

1422
00:59:53,430 --> 00:59:50,799
not far off the coast of hong kong when

1423
00:59:55,829 --> 00:59:53,440
he seen this out the window uh three

1424
00:59:56,789 --> 00:59:55,839
sets of super lights flying above the

1425
00:59:58,069 --> 00:59:56,799
clouds

1426
01:00:05,109 --> 00:59:58,079
in unison

1427
01:00:09,349 --> 01:00:06,870
not clear what it is the video though

1428
01:00:11,670 --> 01:00:09,359
comes at the end of a year that has seen

1429
01:00:13,829 --> 01:00:11,680
the ufo phenomenon gain widespread

1430
01:00:15,589 --> 01:00:13,839
acceptance just the other week the u.s

1431
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department of defense announced the

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lodge of another

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01:00:24,150 --> 01:00:19,760
new ufo task force so what is it maybe

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01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,190
santa claus

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01:00:32,789 --> 01:00:30,069
robert says uh those are definitely fair

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01:00:34,630 --> 01:00:32,799
flares i wouldn't disagree with that i

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01:00:36,470 --> 01:00:34,640
wouldn't disagree with that yes for this

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01:00:37,829 --> 01:00:36,480
very reason because you can see they

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01:00:41,190 --> 01:00:37,839
kind of

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01:00:44,630 --> 01:00:41,200
disappear almost one at a time

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01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:44,640
so see you jos thanks for coming

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01:00:50,309 --> 01:00:46,799
thanks for hanging out

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01:00:52,870 --> 01:00:50,319
um the springfield cube i think i

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01:00:55,670 --> 01:00:52,880
may have shown that one last episode i'm

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01:00:57,510 --> 01:00:55,680
not completely positive though so not

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01:00:59,190 --> 01:00:57,520
completely sure

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01:01:01,990 --> 01:00:59,200
but yeah send me any videos you want to

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01:01:03,510 --> 01:01:02,000
see to my email or or you know if you

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01:01:04,470 --> 01:01:03,520
follow me on twitter whatever you can

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01:01:06,789 --> 01:01:04,480
always

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01:01:09,430 --> 01:01:06,799
send me a message there or

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01:01:11,589 --> 01:01:09,440
take me in a post or something

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01:01:14,710 --> 01:01:11,599
whatever works best for you

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01:01:16,950 --> 01:01:14,720
you can do that and we can kind of

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01:01:21,750 --> 01:01:16,960
uh spread the love a little bit

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01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:26,630
i'm down with that

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01:01:31,829 --> 01:01:29,030
some flare expert

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as their flare experts

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01:01:36,470 --> 01:01:33,760
that would be a weird thing to be

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01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:36,480
i'm a flare expert

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01:01:41,750 --> 01:01:39,040
so with that being said um i hope you

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01:01:44,390 --> 01:01:41,760
guys had a good time today on the show

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01:01:46,069 --> 01:01:44,400
we did cover a lot of stuff i thought

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um

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01:01:50,870 --> 01:01:48,240
and i appreciate you guys hanging out

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01:01:52,470 --> 01:01:50,880
for sure send me whatever ufo videos

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01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:52,480
you'd like to see on here

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01:01:55,990 --> 01:01:53,920
good ones or

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01:01:56,370 --> 01:01:56,000
or whatever you know

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01:01:58,230 --> 01:01:56,380
um

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01:02:00,150 --> 01:01:58,240
[Music]

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01:02:01,589 --> 01:02:00,160
i usually that's like the last thing i

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01:02:02,870 --> 01:02:01,599
decide to do is go and try and find

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01:02:03,990 --> 01:02:02,880
videos so

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01:02:06,870 --> 01:02:04,000
you know

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01:02:08,069 --> 01:02:06,880
i'm not always getting the best ones per

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01:02:10,069 --> 01:02:08,079
se but

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01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:10,079
i'll try to put some time into that and

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01:02:13,670 --> 01:02:12,000
stack them up for a few episodes at a

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01:02:15,910 --> 01:02:13,680
time or something so

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01:02:17,270 --> 01:02:15,920
everybody i want to thank you uh for

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01:02:19,270 --> 01:02:17,280
hanging out what i'm going to finish

1483
01:02:21,829 --> 01:02:19,280
this episode with a new song so those

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01:02:24,309 --> 01:02:21,839
who like my music hang out listen to it

1485
01:02:26,150 --> 01:02:24,319
uh for those of you who don't really

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01:02:28,390 --> 01:02:26,160
care one way or another

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01:02:29,670 --> 01:02:28,400
peace out

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01:02:31,670 --> 01:02:29,680
um

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01:02:33,750 --> 01:02:31,680
somebody in here said they saw the 23

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01:02:34,950 --> 01:02:33,760
minute video so make sure you send me an

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01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:34,960
email

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01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:36,960
um and tell me all about it send me the

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01:02:47,829 --> 01:02:44,150
so otherwise uh yeah surf psych toby

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01:02:48,870 --> 01:02:47,839
nigel james robert uh laura

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01:02:50,950 --> 01:02:48,880
lionel

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01:02:52,630 --> 01:02:50,960
bigfoot cyber

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01:02:53,750 --> 01:02:52,640
k-42d

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01:02:55,829 --> 01:02:53,760
toby

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01:02:58,470 --> 01:02:55,839
um

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01:03:00,789 --> 01:02:58,480
everybody else james

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01:03:03,190 --> 01:03:00,799
if i'm missing anyone joe steve clancy

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01:03:04,870 --> 01:03:03,200
earlier jim sutfield

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01:03:06,950 --> 01:03:04,880
if i'm missing anyone sorry about that

1504
01:03:08,630 --> 01:03:06,960
laura sosa thank you

1505
01:03:12,870 --> 01:03:08,640
appreciate it

1506
01:05:29,109 --> 01:03:12,880
and we will see you next time

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01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:32,309
what a freaking joke

1508
01:05:36,390 --> 01:05:33,750
what a joke

1509
01:05:39,190 --> 01:05:36,400
i cannot believe that grip

1510
01:05:41,589 --> 01:05:39,200
that pisses me off

1511
01:05:43,349 --> 01:05:41,599
i'm not really pissed off but

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01:05:45,910 --> 01:05:43,359
i tried something different didn't work

1513
01:05:48,829 --> 01:05:47,270
hope you dig

1514
01:05:55,190 --> 01:05:48,839
in need of

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01:06:03,109 --> 01:05:58,080
if you believe in that sort of thing

1516
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:03,119
[Music]

1517
01:06:10,710 --> 01:06:06,770
most around but i'm always in

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01:06:18,630 --> 01:06:14,670
i'm kind of known for that sort of thing

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01:06:20,870 --> 01:06:18,640
[Music]

1520
01:06:26,309 --> 01:06:20,880
yeah i'm honest

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01:06:33,589 --> 01:06:30,540
rather it's me than you being something

1522
01:06:33,589 --> 01:06:33,599
[Music]

1523
01:06:33,599 --> 01:06:37,589
and aren't we lucky

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01:06:41,349 --> 01:06:39,410
to believe

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01:07:12,710 --> 01:06:41,359
[Music]

1526
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:18,070
through the painting

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01:07:35,750 --> 01:07:32,940
[Music]

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01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:35,760
[Laughter]

1529
01:07:51,430 --> 01:07:41,000
[Applause]

1530
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:56,470
in life

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01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:01,430
in space and time

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01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:03,990
yes i'm honest

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01:08:09,750 --> 01:08:06,410
and it hurts me sometimes

1534
01:08:14,860 --> 01:08:13,190
rather it's me than you being

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01:08:18,229 --> 01:08:14,870
there's something

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01:08:25,189 --> 01:08:18,239
[Music]

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01:08:29,430 --> 01:08:27,590
please for me

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01:08:32,789 --> 01:08:29,440
pretend to be

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01:08:32,799 --> 01:08:36,390
of lucky

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01:08:43,990 --> 01:08:38,370
to

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01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:44,000
[Music]

1542
01:08:56,480 --> 01:08:46,810
would we be

1543
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:03,829
[Music]

1544
01:09:05,190 --> 01:09:05,010
another

1545
01:09:14,870 --> 01:09:05,200
[Applause]

1546
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:19,030
will die

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01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,870
in space

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01:09:23,820 --> 01:09:23,570
[Music]

1549
01:09:39,669 --> 01:09:23,830
[Applause]

1550
01:10:00,550 --> 01:09:39,679
[Music]

1551
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,430
space

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01:10:20,950 --> 01:10:10,990
[Music]